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Pros and Cons of Writing Groups and Writing Classes(Part 2)

May 11th, 2008

Okay, I haven’t written in a couple of days.  I tripped on a metal doorstop and my face hit the open metal door.  Yes, I have been sporting the Angelina Jolie look the past few days. 

In the chart below I summarized the differences between a writing class vs. a writing group  If you question whether to go to a writing class or group, and you have never been to one, you should at least check it out.  You will know within the first two meetings of either group whether your attendance will help you further your goals.  Remember your travel time, your time in the class or group, and the time you work on assignments or other projects is time spent away from your writing.  Is this worth it when you should be, could be spending time with your favorite character that needs to solve some conundrum?  When a writing class or group is good, you know it.  You know that it is the stepping stone you need to shorten your learning curve.

 

Writing Class

Writing Group

Improving the critical eye Most writing teachers actually have written and taken classes.  They are able to show students how to breakdown novel writing, analyze context meanings, and improve word choice and diction. Reading and critiquing certainly helps one to edit personal writing projects better.  Facilitator may or may not have more experience than the group.  Sharing constructive criticism may vary in sophistication because the group members may vary in experience and the facilitator. Reading others works and listening to critiques allows you to learn more about the craft of writing.
Exposure to new ideas Presentation of new ideas from both students and teacher is a high likelihood. Presentation of new ideas from group members is also very probable.
Exposure to new ways of doing things This varies but may have more to do with the how the administration would like a syllabus structured or to be assured that teaching the required minimum is done.An academic class is less likely to discuss how individuals handle the writing process.  Concentration is devoted to the resulting product. The group is free to do whatever it pleases.  Every writer has his or her own way of writing expression.  Different habits, environment,  approaches give ideas how members can tackle writing obstacles.  Talking to others is the best way to find out what may work for you.
Being part of a writing community Connection to a writing community is key to keep inspired. Ditto
Time commitment There may be more time committed to class assignments and development of the individual writing stages.  Attendance is usually mandatory. Time commitment is flexible.  There are no attendance requirement usually, but in order to get something out of the group, one should attend.
Cons    
    After a period of time, some writers are influenced by the group critiques and the writer’s style is compromised.  He or she loses some of the uniqueness in order to satisfy the consensus of the group.  And the end product loses its uniqueness.
  There is an inherent danger in presenting a fledgling idea to a group.  Not well developed, the group can discourage the writer’s vision and the project could be abandoned before it was ever developed enough to see if the idea would have worked out . Like the writing class, exposure to criticism before the idea is fully developed could squash the writer’s desire to work on it further.
  On occasion professors will use the class as a sounding board for his or her own writing.  While the class does learn, it seems as if it serves the professor’s agenda more than the students. There is a sameness that happens in writing groups because there is usually no long term planning in terms of group goals. 
  Not everyone in writing classes share the ambition to be published. Writing groups don’t usually turn away anyone.  Sometimes time and group management becomes an issue especially if one of the members insists on dominating the discussion.

 

Pros and Cons of Writing Groups and Writing Classes (Part 1)

May 8th, 2008

Nervous and excited about joining a writing group or class? You should be. Unlike math or the hard sciences, where there is only the right and the wrong answer, writing is personal. Science and math rests on reason and facts. When we write, we pour some parts of ourselves in the experience. Our deepest thoughts spill out in words, open for all to view….and criticize. We leave our soft underbellies exposed.

I have been a member of a number of writing groups and attended several writing classes over the years. Why we subject ourselves to criticism is obvious. We want to do write better. But deep down when we present our work, the project that we have been writing for several weeks, months, and maybe years, what we are looking for confirmation that our writing is good, that we really do have talent.

Feedback, especially constructive feedback, is both beneficial and stifling to the creative process. Critiquing brings a new vantage point, new ideas, and can sustain motivation. If the criticism is harsh and insensitive, it can be extremely devastating to a new writer. It can squelch the writer’s chance of developing his or her writing, because we carry the wound for the rest of our lives. Time dulls the sting of the insult, but we are acutely aware of the unkind feedback and sometimes one can detect it in behavior. When things hapen of the is a subjective process and one has to understand from whom the criticism comes. What is the person’s agenda or experience? Are the comments have a ring of truth to them? Are the comments accompanied by actual suggestions to remedy the problem? Or does the person doing the critique in the process of satisfying some complex ego flaw?

But just maybe the critic is giving an honest opinion. This is what we all strive for when we sign on to these classes.

Here are some things to keep in mind if you have never been to a writing group or writing class:

  • First, if you are the sensitive type…easily wounded if you do not get a standing ovation, then you are probably not ready for your work to be reviewed by a group. For the most part, every member of the group thinks they are helping you become a better writer. The truth is that only you can help you become a better writer. Be open to criticism.
  • Do not take it personally — unless someone says you have an ugly dog.
  • Do not try to explain your point of view unless it is requested. This position makes you defensive and you start to not listen carefully to what the person is trying to tell you, even though the criticism may be awkwardly expressed. When you have to explain what your story is about or what it means, then you obviously haven’t written the passage well enough. Your words should be self explanatory.
  • Even if your work ranks up there with Mario Puzo, you need to realize that your plot, your writing style, or whatever is not going to appeal to everyone. You don’t need to please everyone.
  • Take the suggestions and use what makes sense. Thank them for their feedback and don’t let them see you sticking your tongue out at them.

A bad class or group is a total time waster. Yes, not all writing groups or classes are created equal. A writing group that has members with strong egos can crush your creative spirit. Strong, ambitious and vociferous writers often force their opinons, because being heard is like stroking their own self worth. Just remember advice can be taken or rejected.

A good group is homogenous. This means that everyone at the meeting shares the same interest. If the group is songwriting, then everyone should be into the creating music or writing lyrics. If the group is about poetry, then you would not find a lyricist in the group unless the lyricist also wrote poems. There is too much ground to cover when your group has varied agendas. No one wants to talk about someone else’s genre and neither will you particularly be interested in listening reading it.

I welcome you to share your thoughts on this topic. In the next post I will compare the writing class vs. the writer’s group, line by line. Stay tuned.